“The political theory that I write is not intended as an authoritative announcement. It is intended as an invitation to a conversation.” Joseph Carens, Professor of political science at the University of Toronto, accepted to share his own approach to political theory and his views on the relationship between political theory and empirical political science in our fifth “Democracy: Bridging Facts and Norms” podcast. This interview took place in parallel to the APSA annual meeting 2016 in Philadelphia, on September 2, 2016. It is a contribution to our 2015-2016 events series “Democracy: Bridging Facts and Norms.” Interview and jingle by Alice el-Wakil. Music “Sunday Lovers” by Monday Night Fever.